# Can´t move elements around **URL:** \ **Category:** Questions\ **Created:** [March 4, 2024, 8:40pm UTC](https://forum.pinegrow.com/t/can-t-move-elements-around/8746 "2024-03-04T20:40:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![AudunNilsen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AudunNilsen](https://forum.pinegrow.com/u/AudunNilsen)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2024, 8:40pm UTC](https://forum.pinegrow.com/t/can-t-move-elements-around/8746/1 "2024-03-04T20:40:40Z")
Hi For some reason or other, I have a hard time moving “sections” around, and making them larger. If I want more space between two sections, or to enlarge a section, how do I do that? I tried going on the side menu, in the visual Editor on the CSS Style-tab, and then drag the bottom part down, but, although I see the size of the box grow bigger, the section underneath it is as if glued to it´s position, and the box on top just dips into that, instead of pushing it further down. Another thing is that the section on the bottom of these two here doesn´t seem to be possible to move. It says “can´t move element into itself”. I´m thoroughly confused here. ---
**Author:** ![TechAkayy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ce73a5/32.png) [@TechAkayy](https://forum.pinegrow.com/u/TechAkayy)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2024, 12:34am UTC](https://forum.pinegrow.com/t/can-t-move-elements-around/8746/2 "2024-03-05T00:34:59Z")
Welcome to Pinegrow! To space an element from its sibling, in the styles panel, scroll down to the margin/padding and add the margin (for the desired direction top, bottom, left or right). ---
**Author:** ![AudunNilsen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AudunNilsen](https://forum.pinegrow.com/u/AudunNilsen)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2024, 6:33am UTC](https://forum.pinegrow.com/t/can-t-move-elements-around/8746/3 "2024-03-05T06:33:11Z")
Yeah, I tried that, and it made the section below disappear into the top one. I tried to pull it upwards just now, and it made the space I wanted, but I can´t seem to use it for anything. If I place an element there, it goes below both sections. I also see that the original section is highlighted in green in the same area as before… ---
**Author:** ![TechAkayy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ce73a5/32.png) [@TechAkayy](https://forum.pinegrow.com/u/TechAkayy)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2024, 7:25am UTC](https://forum.pinegrow.com/t/can-t-move-elements-around/8746/4 "2024-03-05T07:25:23Z")
With the spacing control (margin/padding), you are essentially creating css rules on the elements to style them. Can you share your snippets/screenshots to understand the issue you are facing with your page? This [article](https://pinegrow.com/docs/getting-started/is-pinegrow-the-right-choice-for-you/) will be helpful to understand how to work on your elements in Pinegrow. Specificallly for css styling, please refer to this docs page - [https://pinegrow.com/docs/master-pinegrow/style/](https://pinegrow.com/docs/master-pinegrow/style/). The interactive tutorials from Pinegrow’s start-screen is also helpful, easy and practical. ![image](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/uploads/pinegrow/original/2X/3/308d33fe965a5170c90820ec3ee0a2cf23ba55f8.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![AudunNilsen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AudunNilsen](https://forum.pinegrow.com/u/AudunNilsen)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2024, 7:34am UTC](https://forum.pinegrow.com/t/can-t-move-elements-around/8746/5 "2024-03-05T07:34:12Z")
![image_2024-03-05_083332260](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/uploads/pinegrow/original/2X/f/f6370fbec1d9a5e2fca65f89100f3f02521a1cb0.png) ---
**Author:** ![AudunNilsen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AudunNilsen](https://forum.pinegrow.com/u/AudunNilsen)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2024, 9:36am UTC](https://forum.pinegrow.com/t/can-t-move-elements-around/8746/6 "2024-03-06T09:36:56Z")
bump I looked through the guide, but didn´t find anything about this.