# Cyber Monday Sale and Getting updates out faster with the upcoming Pinegrow Live **URL:** \ **Category:** Announcements\ **Tags:** cybermonday\ **Created:** [November 29, 2021, 10:17am UTC](https://forum.pinegrow.com/t/cyber-monday-sale-and-getting-updates-out-faster-with-the-upcoming-pinegrow-live/5961 "2021-11-29T10:17:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Emmanuel](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/forum.pinegrow.com/emmanuel/32/6294_2.png) [@Emmanuel](https://forum.pinegrow.com/u/Emmanuel)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2021, 10:17am UTC](https://forum.pinegrow.com/t/cyber-monday-sale-and-getting-updates-out-faster-with-the-upcoming-pinegrow-live/5961/1 "2021-11-29T10:17:32Z")
Hello! What comes after the #thanksgiving sale and the #blackfriday sale? It’s our **#cybermonday** sale with **-35% on all editions, renewals and add-ons**! ![cyber-monday](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/uploads/pinegrow/original/2X/c/c7754a3b50e48f72ec7c0cb6db45deeae9024b5c.jpeg) [https://pinegrow.com/#buy](https://pinegrow.com/#buy) Yes, November brings in more sales than any other month and thus significantly contributes to making Pinegrow a long term, sustainable venture. We all benefit from this. You, our user, receive better software and we, the team, can keep working on what we love. We have some news connected to this. # Getting updates out faster with Pinegrow Live We often get into the situation where we quickly fix reported bugs, but are unable to quickly push the improvements out without going through the whole release cycle. Doing a release is a whole day’s of work and it requires that users download and reinstall the app. To solve this we will introduce a special install setup called Pinegrow Live, that will consist of two parts: - Downloadable Pinegrow barebones app that you will install on your device. - The rest of the Pinegrow application code will be loaded from our server. This will let us quickly release fixes and new features. All you will have to do is reload the app. The only drawback is that this will not work offline. Pinegrow Live will not replace normal Pinegrow releases. It will just be a way for our power users to be more up-to-date with Pinegrow development. We hope to release Pinegrow Live very soon, with the aim to allow us to work even closer with our community on making Pinegrow even better. * * * Have a good day! Matjaz & the Team ---
**Author:** ![BonoBoos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b77776/32.png) [@BonoBoos](https://forum.pinegrow.com/u/BonoBoos)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2021, 6:10pm UTC](https://forum.pinegrow.com/t/cyber-monday-sale-and-getting-updates-out-faster-with-the-upcoming-pinegrow-live/5961/2 "2021-11-29T18:10:58Z")
I hope that you will make sure that Pinegrow Live is either linked to the same account, because some people’s licences (like mine) will end in January, and if Pinegrow Live kicks in I hope that it remains as easy going to keep going. I always appreciated that, that the app didn’t stop working. And happier even when you could update for a whole new year again. I hope that spirit doesn’t go away with Pinegrow Live ---
**Author:** ![Emmanuel](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/forum.pinegrow.com/emmanuel/32/6294_2.png) [@Emmanuel](https://forum.pinegrow.com/u/Emmanuel)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2021, 10:18pm UTC](https://forum.pinegrow.com/t/cyber-monday-sale-and-getting-updates-out-faster-with-the-upcoming-pinegrow-live/5961/3 "2021-11-29T22:18:36Z")
@BonoBoos I’m not sure I understand everything, but the license system will remain unchanged and the validity period of the licenses will remain the same as when you bought them. Sometimes, exceptionally, we increase temporarily this duration when we are not fully satisfied with an update, the time to put things in order with the next update, but it is not a general rule 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![BonoBoos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b77776/32.png) [@BonoBoos](https://forum.pinegrow.com/u/BonoBoos)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2021, 4:23pm UTC](https://forum.pinegrow.com/t/cyber-monday-sale-and-getting-updates-out-faster-with-the-upcoming-pinegrow-live/5961/4 "2021-11-30T16:23:59Z")
You did understand everything 🙂 Simply put I hope the online version works well and all, but I’m attached to the desktop so if there are any differences in maintaining versions, it would beat the purpose. ---
**Author:** ![schpengle](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/forum.pinegrow.com/schpengle/32/238_2.png) [@schpengle](https://forum.pinegrow.com/u/schpengle)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2021, 5:11pm UTC](https://forum.pinegrow.com/t/cyber-monday-sale-and-getting-updates-out-faster-with-the-upcoming-pinegrow-live/5961/5 "2021-11-30T17:11:21Z")
It would be good if you could run your desktop version AND the online version side by side/ interoperably together under the same licensing (as _one_ install) if some annoying bug (to some) was created in a release, so that the online version could be used until either your _hot patch_ system addressed the issue, or a remedial, updated installer is released. And Im guessing @BonoBoos 's question then is, if ones licensing has lapsed, but you STILL have your **Good to Go** older version installed…can you still use the online version and I guess, if so, Which version would you get? YOUR one… or a newer one? and I have no idea why this forum post has a problem with the spelling of [https://www.wordsense.eu/interoperably/](https://www.wordsense.eu/interoperably/) … maybe its the “ **/** ” before it ---
**Author:** ![Emmanuel](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/forum.pinegrow.com/emmanuel/32/6294_2.png) [@Emmanuel](https://forum.pinegrow.com/u/Emmanuel)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2021, 6:43pm UTC](https://forum.pinegrow.com/t/cyber-monday-sale-and-getting-updates-out-faster-with-the-upcoming-pinegrow-live/5961/6 "2021-11-30T18:43:38Z")
@BonoBoos @schpengle Hold on guys, the announcement is not about [Pinegrow online](https://pinegrow.online) (a service that is totally different from desktop licenses and that will possibly be commercialized separately in the future) but about a special **install setup** called Pinegrow Live of which I give you some details in my initial message. ---
**Author:** ![schpengle](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/forum.pinegrow.com/schpengle/32/238_2.png) [@schpengle](https://forum.pinegrow.com/u/schpengle)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2021, 6:56pm UTC](https://forum.pinegrow.com/t/cyber-monday-sale-and-getting-updates-out-faster-with-the-upcoming-pinegrow-live/5961/7 "2021-11-30T18:56:49Z")
Ah ok, Yes I got the distinction earlier, but was reading @BonoBoos 's comments too and wondering how it would work, anticipating his query. So I wont ask any more about it, till more info is released, I’ll just shut up and let the **Cyber Monday Sale** Headline carry on 🙂 (Congrats on yet another avenue though too.) ---
**Author:** ![sandrobilbeisi](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/forum.pinegrow.com/sandrobilbeisi/32/1066_2.png) [@sandrobilbeisi](https://forum.pinegrow.com/u/sandrobilbeisi)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2021, 5:50pm UTC](https://forum.pinegrow.com/t/cyber-monday-sale-and-getting-updates-out-faster-with-the-upcoming-pinegrow-live/5961/8 "2021-12-02T17:50:50Z")
I am going to keep the last desktop version of PineGrow and try to use it side by side with the new web based one. ---
**Author:** ![AllMediaLab](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/forum.pinegrow.com/allmedialab/32/2079_2.png) [@AllMediaLab](https://forum.pinegrow.com/u/AllMediaLab)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2021, 6:22pm UTC](https://forum.pinegrow.com/t/cyber-monday-sale-and-getting-updates-out-faster-with-the-upcoming-pinegrow-live/5961/9 "2021-12-02T18:22:31Z")
@Emmanuel Hi Emmanuel > [@Emmanuel](#): > > Getting updates out faster with Pinegrow Live Maybe it’s a good idea to call it “Pingrow Live Updates” (to stop the confusion about the name) instead of “Pinegrow Live” or just “PG Live Updates”. Regards, David ---
**Author:** ![matjaz](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/forum.pinegrow.com/matjaz/32/5_2.png) [@matjaz](https://forum.pinegrow.com/u/matjaz)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2021, 9:32pm UTC](https://forum.pinegrow.com/t/cyber-monday-sale-and-getting-updates-out-faster-with-the-upcoming-pinegrow-live/5961/10 "2021-12-03T21:32:11Z")
The first release of Pinegrow Live is now available for download: > **[Pinegrow Live | Pinegrow Web Editor](https://pinegrow.com/download/pinegrow-live/)** > > Pinegrow Live is a special Pinegrow Web Editor installation that loads most of its code from our servers and thus contains the latest (not yet released) features and bug fixes. Let’s give the name Pinegrow Live some time… Please take it for a spin and report any issues. ---
**Author:** ![AllMediaLab](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/forum.pinegrow.com/allmedialab/32/2079_2.png) [@AllMediaLab](https://forum.pinegrow.com/u/AllMediaLab)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2021, 6:25pm UTC](https://forum.pinegrow.com/t/cyber-monday-sale-and-getting-updates-out-faster-with-the-upcoming-pinegrow-live/5961/11 "2021-12-07T18:25:35Z")
Hi @matjaz All looking fine except for the flashes when you try to open a page in the Chrome browser from within Pinegrow Live. Tried the live version with setting up a Bootsrap 5 project and noticed that it still contains a previous version of Bootstrap 5. You would expect in the live version to have all stuff up to date! (Also in the normal version by the way!!! 😉) When I save a CSS file the \* is not disappearing! Just add some code to a CSS file and save it. Regards, David ---
**Author:** ![RobM](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/278dde/32.png) [@RobM](https://forum.pinegrow.com/u/RobM)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2021, 6:45pm UTC](https://forum.pinegrow.com/t/cyber-monday-sale-and-getting-updates-out-faster-with-the-upcoming-pinegrow-live/5961/12 "2021-12-07T18:45:32Z")
Hi @AllMediaLab, Can’t comment on the BS5 version, but I don’t see a difference with the browser display in Live versus desktop. Maybe it is system specific? I also can’t replicate the unsaved file indicator bug. I just opened the index template from the plain BS5 tab. Then I added to the `style.css` file. Hit the save hotkeys and the star disappeared. Tried also to alter another CSS file - same result. Maybe it is project specific? Cheers, Bob