# Grid Handle No Longer Available in 5.92 release **URL:** \ **Category:** Bug Reports\ **Created:** [February 2, 2020, 4:12pm UTC](https://forum.pinegrow.com/t/grid-handle-no-longer-available-in-5-92-release/3745 "2020-02-02T16:12:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![xayaraj](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/eb8c5e/32.png) [@xayaraj](https://forum.pinegrow.com/u/xayaraj)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2020, 4:12pm UTC](https://forum.pinegrow.com/t/grid-handle-no-longer-available-in-5-92-release/3745/1 "2020-02-02T16:12:57Z")
![Capture](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/uploads/pinegrow/original/2X/c/cb21bf89255a079a9682b31821ff99dcea5884d9.png) In the Grid CSS video training, the grid handle was there in the older version of Pinegrow. It is no longer available when I follow the video training again in 5.92 release ---
**Author:** ![Marf](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/forum.pinegrow.com/marf/32/1799_2.png) [@Marf](https://forum.pinegrow.com/u/Marf)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2020, 8:39am UTC](https://forum.pinegrow.com/t/grid-handle-no-longer-available-in-5-92-release/3745/2 "2020-02-03T08:39:24Z")
Hi welcome to the Pinegrow Forum. Are you sure the **“Visual helper”** to show this is still enabled? You need **“Selected element border & controls”** to be active ☑, to show these CSS grid handles. ![pg-visual-helpers-grid](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/uploads/pinegrow/original/2X/a/a2c2571a7a218858846a5689ea5810c918271cce.png) ---
**Author:** ![xayaraj](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/eb8c5e/32.png) [@xayaraj](https://forum.pinegrow.com/u/xayaraj)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2020, 9:14pm UTC](https://forum.pinegrow.com/t/grid-handle-no-longer-available-in-5-92-release/3745/3 "2020-02-03T21:14:20Z")
![2020-02-03 16_11_26-Window](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/uploads/pinegrow/original/2X/2/2c40f79c491022a580c863018373180232a61e36.png) Still not showing up. The “Selected element border & controls” was already active. Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![Marf](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/forum.pinegrow.com/marf/32/1799_2.png) [@Marf](https://forum.pinegrow.com/u/Marf)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2020, 10:06pm UTC](https://forum.pinegrow.com/t/grid-handle-no-longer-available-in-5-92-release/3745/4 "2020-02-03T22:06:07Z")
You have defined the CSS Grid on the **body** tag. I see only “white space”, did you place any elements on the page (and select one)…?? Those **“drag handles”** are only visible when there is something selected, that is inside the parent element with the defined grid (in your case the body), that can be positioned on the grid. It looks now if you have an empty page, with nothing on it, only an empty body. Place some elements/tags inside the body (drag something from the Library panel onto the page or to the Tree panel). For example an H1, so you have something with text you can see and select. If i’m wrong with this assumption, and the body is not empty, can you show a screenshot from the source code. So we can see that and inspect it for you. ---
**Author:** ![xayaraj](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/eb8c5e/32.png) [@xayaraj](https://forum.pinegrow.com/u/xayaraj)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2020, 10:26pm UTC](https://forum.pinegrow.com/t/grid-handle-no-longer-available-in-5-92-release/3745/5 "2020-02-03T22:26:53Z")
![firstOne](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/uploads/pinegrow/original/2X/7/792741843bfdbfb8c56071d60c27dedafd0851ee.png) There are now 3 elements in the body. ---
**Author:** ![xayaraj](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/eb8c5e/32.png) [@xayaraj](https://forum.pinegrow.com/u/xayaraj)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2020, 10:28pm UTC](https://forum.pinegrow.com/t/grid-handle-no-longer-available-in-5-92-release/3745/6 "2020-02-03T22:28:41Z")
![secondOne](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/uploads/pinegrow/original/2X/4/4a9301e9c3edc8d9bf91538cbd464a29d67e9ceb.png) The second picture shows all the visual helpers are enabled. ---
**Author:** ![Marf](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/forum.pinegrow.com/marf/32/1799_2.png) [@Marf](https://forum.pinegrow.com/u/Marf)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2020, 11:41pm UTC](https://forum.pinegrow.com/t/grid-handle-no-longer-available-in-5-92-release/3745/7 "2020-02-03T23:41:17Z")
Thanks for the extra info, that’s indeed strange that you don’t see the visual helpers in the pageview area. Did you try to **re-install Pinegrow** , to see if that fixes the problem (maybe something corrupt). Or you can wait for v5.93, which will be released soon.To see if that will fix it for you. Or wait for a response from Pinegrow Support (I’m sure they read your post). ---
**Author:** ![xayaraj](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/eb8c5e/32.png) [@xayaraj](https://forum.pinegrow.com/u/xayaraj)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2020, 2:10am UTC](https://forum.pinegrow.com/t/grid-handle-no-longer-available-in-5-92-release/3745/8 "2020-02-04T02:10:25Z")
I have uninstalled and installed Pinegrow. The problem is fixed. Thank you!!! ---
**Author:** ![Marf](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/forum.pinegrow.com/marf/32/1799_2.png) [@Marf](https://forum.pinegrow.com/u/Marf)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2020, 9:03am UTC](https://forum.pinegrow.com/t/grid-handle-no-longer-available-in-5-92-release/3745/9 "2020-02-04T09:03:10Z")
Good to hear that it’s working now!