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**Category:** General\
**Tags:** feature-request\
**Created:** [September 19, 2020, 4:46pm UTC](https://forum.pinegrow.com/t/need-a-better-optimize-html-tool/4540 "2020-09-19T16:46:10Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 4\
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**Author:**  [@neilrieck](https://forum.pinegrow.com/u/neilrieck)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2020, 4:46pm UTC](https://forum.pinegrow.com/t/need-a-better-optimize-html-tool/4540/1 "2020-09-19T16:46:10Z")
I’m just learning Pinegrow while I renovate ~ 100 web pages making them responsive. Currently, I need to run pages generated by Pinegrow through MS-FrontPage-2003 where I only run the “Optimize HTML Tool” which can reduce Pinegrow page sizes by 30-40% (indent with tabs; remove HTML leading white space; limit no-HTML lines to 132 characters, etc). I’m sure that a tool like this would make Pinegrow a little more useful
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**Author:**  [@droidgoo](https://forum.pinegrow.com/u/droidgoo)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2020, 5:22pm UTC](https://forum.pinegrow.com/t/need-a-better-optimize-html-tool/4540/2 "2020-09-19T17:22:16Z")
that sounds like formatting more than optimization…
PG has the option to auto format your files on save, look for it under the Support/Settings menu
**Auto-format HTML code**
personally, i would be afraid to run my html pages thru anything that old… FrontPage was never really very good at web design, and that was at least 2-3 standards ago.
if your want the latest formatting help, the html editor VSCode has a built in format feature that i use and works better than the PG one.
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**Author:**  [@neilrieck](https://forum.pinegrow.com/u/neilrieck)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2020, 5:54pm UTC](https://forum.pinegrow.com/t/need-a-better-optimize-html-tool/4540/3 "2020-09-19T17:54:05Z")
I agree with your point of view. However, it seems a weird that an old tool inside FrontPage can do a better job than most of the plugins I’ve seen in Code Visual Studio. Now I know that FP hails from a time before 4G but just because we’ve got a faster network doesn’t mean that I feel comfortable serving superfluous white space
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**Author:**  [@RobM](https://forum.pinegrow.com/u/RobM)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2020, 6:02pm UTC](https://forum.pinegrow.com/t/need-a-better-optimize-html-tool/4540/4 "2020-09-19T18:02:31Z")
There is also a setting to use tabs rather than spaces. Have to admit that I never realized how much bandwidth it could save.