# Pinegrow Desktop Painfully Slow and Sluggish **URL:** \ **Category:** Questions\ **Tags:** bug\ **Created:** [July 9, 2025, 10:43am UTC](https://forum.pinegrow.com/t/pinegrow-desktop-painfully-slow-and-sluggish/10927 "2025-07-09T10:43:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![fakesamgregory](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/forum.pinegrow.com/fakesamgregory/32/3903_2.png) [@fakesamgregory](https://forum.pinegrow.com/u/fakesamgregory)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2025, 10:43am UTC](https://forum.pinegrow.com/t/pinegrow-desktop-painfully-slow-and-sluggish/10927/1 "2025-07-09T10:43:29Z")
I’m using Pinegrow on a completely maxed out Macbook (M1 Max, 64gb, 32c). Pinegrow is painfully slow to use. Opening a project takes minutes and with each action, it takes about 2 seconds to register every click. This can’t be right. I’m using Pinegrow version 8.3. I’m also getting similar performance on my M1 Pro. I tried disabling backups but this didn’t do anything. ---
**Author:** ![fakesamgregory](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/forum.pinegrow.com/fakesamgregory/32/3903_2.png) [@fakesamgregory](https://forum.pinegrow.com/u/fakesamgregory)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2025, 11:03am UTC](https://forum.pinegrow.com/t/pinegrow-desktop-painfully-slow-and-sluggish/10927/2 "2025-07-09T11:03:26Z")
Update: I’m actually using 8.4 but it shows 8.3 in the ‘About’ section. ![CleanShot 2025-07-09 at 12.03.08@2x](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/uploads/pinegrow/original/2X/7/7676143eb4f7744b14596b63c57328e13ece7034.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Emmanuel](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/forum.pinegrow.com/emmanuel/32/6294_2.png) [@Emmanuel](https://forum.pinegrow.com/u/Emmanuel)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2025, 9:32pm UTC](https://forum.pinegrow.com/t/pinegrow-desktop-painfully-slow-and-sluggish/10927/3 "2025-07-09T21:32:55Z")
Beyond the version number that slipped by mistake between version 8.3 and 8.5, since this feedback isn’t very common, the question is, given that you’ve been using Pinegrow for a while now, whether this behavior is new or if it’s been happening for a while or on a specific project. This isn’t about support (which is provided through the support email), but rather to learn a bit more about your issue. Thanks for your details. ---
**Author:** ![fakesamgregory](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/forum.pinegrow.com/fakesamgregory/32/3903_2.png) [@fakesamgregory](https://forum.pinegrow.com/u/fakesamgregory)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2025, 8:37am UTC](https://forum.pinegrow.com/t/pinegrow-desktop-painfully-slow-and-sluggish/10927/4 "2025-07-10T08:37:31Z")
Hmmm, maybe because it was a Wednesday or something because it seems to be running ok right now. Typical as i got my work done pretty much blind. I’ll keep my eye open as it was weird that it was sluggish on BOTH my machines ---
**Author:** ![Emmanuel](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/forum.pinegrow.com/emmanuel/32/6294_2.png) [@Emmanuel](https://forum.pinegrow.com/u/Emmanuel)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2025, 10:19am UTC](https://forum.pinegrow.com/t/pinegrow-desktop-painfully-slow-and-sluggish/10927/5 "2025-07-10T10:19:49Z")
Ahhh, Wednesdays in the summer, everything is always tough 🙂 But hey, beyond the joke, keep an eye on the other days of the week! ---
**Author:** ![PeteSharp](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/forum.pinegrow.com/petesharp/32/7073_2.png) [@PeteSharp](https://forum.pinegrow.com/u/PeteSharp)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2025, 8:12am UTC](https://forum.pinegrow.com/t/pinegrow-desktop-painfully-slow-and-sluggish/10927/6 "2025-07-12T08:12:25Z")
Maybe a silly question. Are you sure you’re running the Apple Silicon version of Pinegrow?