# Pinegrow Lifetime Licenses
**URL:** https://forum.pinegrow.com/t/pinegrow-lifetime-licenses/3294
**Category:** General
**Created:** [August 30, 2019, 11:22am UTC](https://forum.pinegrow.com/t/pinegrow-lifetime-licenses/3294 "2019-08-30T11:22:27Z")
**Posts on this page:** 4
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### Author:  [@Pervasive](https://forum.pinegrow.com/u/Pervasive)
#### Post date: [August 30, 2019, 11:22am UTC](https://forum.pinegrow.com/t/pinegrow-lifetime-licenses/3294/1 "2019-08-30T11:22:27Z")
On a license activation page that I just visited there is a link to have _ **YOU** _ email my licenses. Of course, having just bought the recent Lifetime Specials for $100, I know my activation codes.
What DOES strike me as odd is the email that was returned! I know that I bought Lifetime products with no expiration date, so I have to ask the obvious question differently:
Why aren’t these two products listed as permanent Lifetime licenses with no expiration date?
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Hi,
these are your Pinegrow licences assigned to email address some-email@some-domain.tld:
Serial code: XXXXX, product: PGTC, **updates until: 2020-08-28** , quantity: 1
Serial code: XXXXX, product: SNAP, **updates until: 2020-08-28** , quantity: 1
Please contact us if this information is not correct.
Have a great day!
Pinegrow licence robot
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### Author:  [@Pervasive](https://forum.pinegrow.com/u/Pervasive)
#### Post date: [August 30, 2019, 5:14pm UTC](https://forum.pinegrow.com/t/pinegrow-lifetime-licenses/3294/2 "2019-08-30T17:14:18Z")
So I thought of another possibility…
Perhaps the license is temporary during the 30-day refund period and the permanent license will be sent at a later date.
I have emailed support.
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### Author:  [@Farscaper](https://forum.pinegrow.com/u/Farscaper)
#### Post date: [September 4, 2019, 2:01pm UTC](https://forum.pinegrow.com/t/pinegrow-lifetime-licenses/3294/3 "2019-09-04T14:01:18Z")
I think that perhaps you are mistaking the ability to keep using what you bought, which includes a year of updates, forever with a LTD that may be updated forever, or not at all. You will likely find yourself wanting to update your license each year but you don’t have to.
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### Author:  [@Pervasive](https://forum.pinegrow.com/u/Pervasive)
#### Post date: [September 4, 2019, 3:03pm UTC](https://forum.pinegrow.com/t/pinegrow-lifetime-licenses/3294/4 "2019-09-04T15:03:37Z")
There is no mistake in understanding the email I received from the ‘Pinegrow licence robot’. I posted the reply in black-and-white and American English is my native tongue.
Both purchases include a _ **lifetime update** _ license, which you can see on the sales page. Both of these products come with every update and fix _without paying any yearly fee that you are accustomed to doing or referring to_.
PG Editor - basic, pro, and wordpress have yearly updates. Every year you have to pay again if you want all the updates and fixes.
Perhaps _you_ misunderstood and might want to take a look at these two PG products currently offered _(at this time)_ with lifetime _free_ updates.
> **A Very Special Deal For you!**
>
> We have a special offer for early adopters of Pinegrow Theme Converter.
>
> You can get Pinegrow Theme Converter for just $80 including lifetime free updates.
>
> This offer will never be repeated.
>
> It’s our tradition to include lifetime free updates for a short while when launching a new product.
>
> [Pinegrow Theme Converter for WordPress](https://pinegrow.com/theme-converter-for-wordpress)
> **Special Offer For First Users**
>
> We have a special offer for early adopters of Pinegrow Snapshots.
>
> You can get Pinegrow Snapshots for just $20 including lifetime free updates.
>
> This offer will never be repeated.
>
> It’s our tradition to include lifetime free updates for a short while when launching a new product.
>
> [Pinegrow Snapshots](https://pinegrow.com/snapshots)
I did get a reply from the boss, and he said not to worry… they will both convert and display as lifetime in the very near future.
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Hello,
If you have purchased lifetime licenses, don’t worry because as soon as we will release new versions, your update date will be updated.
Best regards.
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