# Pinegrow Offspring -- Pine Seedling -- Designer App Coming?

**URL:** <https://forum.pinegrow.com/t/pinegrow-offspring-pine-seedling-designer-app-coming/2306>\
**Category:** General\
**Created:** [October 15, 2018, 4:29pm UTC](https://forum.pinegrow.com/t/pinegrow-offspring-pine-seedling-designer-app-coming/2306 "2018-10-15T16:29:36Z")\
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**Post date:** [November 20, 2018, 7:17pm UTC](https://forum.pinegrow.com/t/pinegrow-offspring-pine-seedling-designer-app-coming/2306/80 "2018-11-20T19:17:02Z")

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> [@Terry44](#):
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> Have you looked at vue.js? I am starting to delve into this and similar frameworks like react and the things you can do with this is just amazing BUT they are javascript manipulating the dom

React, Vue, each were [both mentioned recently and met with no response](https://forum.pinegrow.com/t/adding-angular-js-to-an-existing-project/2332/5) (not surprising). It was also pointed out that the Angular version in Pinegrow is outdated, like the Materialize version in app, etc.,

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