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**Category:** General\
**Created:** [January 2, 2017, 11:00am UTC](https://forum.pinegrow.com/t/starting-a-non-responsive-blank-webpage-html-or-bootstrap/565 "2017-01-02T11:00:08Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 6\
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**Author:**  [@Pinegrow\_User](https://forum.pinegrow.com/u/Pinegrow_User)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2017, 2:35pm UTC](https://forum.pinegrow.com/t/starting-a-non-responsive-blank-webpage-html-or-bootstrap/565/41 "2017-02-02T14:35:28Z")
Hi @Thomas Thomas,
> [@Thomas](#):
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> … keep Freeway up (Phoenix-like as recently [announced](http://www.softpress.com/))
Does this exceed what you expected that they are making a comeback, are you surprised with the announcement?
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**Author:**  [@Pinegrow\_User](https://forum.pinegrow.com/u/Pinegrow_User)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2017, 3:03pm UTC](https://forum.pinegrow.com/t/starting-a-non-responsive-blank-webpage-html-or-bootstrap/565/42 "2017-02-02T15:03:51Z")
> [@Rgator](#):
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> It is indeed sort of odd that after sixteen years of making websites I know so little of the actual coding
Now that can continue further it seems. 😜
> [@Rgator](#):
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> • I realized that Pinegrow is just too **primitive** at this time for me to use
> • I actually need a web editor to **do the coding for me**
> • Pinegrow needs a lot of work before it can be something I would be **willing to use**
> • Rather than spending my very hard earned money on a program I **simply can not use**
> • I need a web editing program that **does the coding for me** , rather than me doing the coding for it
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> • I think I will be spending the money on Sparkle instead.
Actually it sounds like you never were really looking for a “web editor” as traditionally intended, but rather more of a GUI based WYSIWYG designer instead.
Perhaps by “primitive” you instead meant **“advanced”** for your current knowledge given your claim to “know so little of the actual coding” after 16 years. Sure the current Pinegrow UI/UX does not easily afford those with certain types of thinking to comprehend the workflow easily, especially when coupled with the user needing to know CSS, HTML, etc.,
But with Pinegrow v3 that may be somewhat eased for users with the new features (drag/drop), new UI, etc. So keep an eye out for [Pinegrow v3](http://forum.pinegrow.com/t/when-does-pinegrow-3-0-come/624/11) and what it potentially brings. Even if it would someday help you with your HTML/CSS/etc., learning process, or you actually need a “web editor” in the future.
Let us know how you like Sparkle if you indeed go that route. Perhaps with Freeways rebirth you can continue down that path as well.
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**Author:**  [@Thomas](https://forum.pinegrow.com/u/Thomas)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2017, 4:05pm UTC](https://forum.pinegrow.com/t/starting-a-non-responsive-blank-webpage-html-or-bootstrap/565/43 "2017-02-02T16:05:36Z")
> [@Pinegrow\_User](#):
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> Does this exceed what you expected that they are making a comeback, are you surprised with the announcement?
That’s an interesting question indeed.
To be honest, a comeback is the last thing I’ve expected ever. So I’m very surprised.
It seems, that they plan a minor upgrade (bug fix) first. FreewayPro is, as is at the end of its possibilities of maintenance and developing. It needs to be re-written from the very first line. But this will happen - and I’m certainly anxious to know how and when. We’ll see.
Well - basically, I see myself in a comfortable situation. Pinegrow is on top of what I did all those years before. It allows me doing things which were impossible before. I’m a web designer - I don’t need necessarily applications doing the magic.
> [@Rgator](#):
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> I realized that Pinegrow is just too primitive at this time for me to use
The ideal application would be a consequent mixture of them both - Pinegrow and FreewayPro. An application which allows amateurs (as you) taking a lil bit part in a profession you don’t really understand and as well featuring the experts and pros evolving the web and making it a better a place every day.
Cheers
Thomas
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**Author:**  [@Rgator](https://forum.pinegrow.com/u/Rgator)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2017, 1:10am UTC](https://forum.pinegrow.com/t/starting-a-non-responsive-blank-webpage-html-or-bootstrap/565/44 "2017-02-03T01:10:16Z")
> [@Thomas](#):
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> Excellent decision - or alternative, you could keep Freeway up (Phoenix-like as recently announced)
OMG!!! YES!!!
I had no idea until I saw this post! I am saved! Hell, friggin’ YES!!! Now to learn Adobe’s Animate CC! I think learning Animate would far more useful to me than learning code.
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**Author:**  [@Rgator](https://forum.pinegrow.com/u/Rgator)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2017, 1:12am UTC](https://forum.pinegrow.com/t/starting-a-non-responsive-blank-webpage-html-or-bootstrap/565/45 "2017-02-03T01:12:05Z")
Now I see no need to purchase Sparkle and so the Softpress announcement came just in time! Yes!
I will be keeping an eye out on Pinegrow though and this forum.
Thanks to everyone here!
Cheers!
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**Author:**  [@Pinegrow\_User](https://forum.pinegrow.com/u/Pinegrow_User)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2017, 2:47am UTC](https://forum.pinegrow.com/t/starting-a-non-responsive-blank-webpage-html-or-bootstrap/565/46 "2017-02-03T02:47:12Z")
I get the felling the Freeway people are excited. 😉
> [@Rgator](#):
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> Now to learn Adobe’s Animate CC! I think learning Animate would far more useful to me than learning code.
With Animate, much like Flash before it, the true power and capabilities are in ones ability to leverage code. You may also be interested in Tumult Hype if you are not yet familiar with it.
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