# Starting from plain html - margins and paddings

**URL:** <https://forum.pinegrow.com/t/starting-from-plain-html-margins-and-paddings/6333>\
**Category:** Beginners\
**Created:** [February 27, 2022, 7:29am UTC](https://forum.pinegrow.com/t/starting-from-plain-html-margins-and-paddings/6333 "2022-02-27T07:29:26Z")\
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**Author:** ![Andrea1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/cdc98d/32.png) [@Andrea1](https://forum.pinegrow.com/u/Andrea1)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2022, 7:29am UTC](https://forum.pinegrow.com/t/starting-from-plain-html-margins-and-paddings/6333/1 "2022-02-27T07:29:26Z")

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Hi there,

this is my post to my question via YouTube regarding the rectangle in the style panel where you can set margins and paddings. Here the screenshot:

![grafik](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/uploads/pinegrow/original/2X/d/d4dd697c3ea8c6a5c2a771b2f9fe334116781ede.png)

If I start from plain html, I don’t see this rectangle. Since this is my first post I am not allowed to put another screenshot to show what it looks like on my screen.

Thanks for help.

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**Author:** ![RobM](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/278dde/32.png) [@RobM](https://forum.pinegrow.com/u/RobM)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2022, 10:41am UTC](https://forum.pinegrow.com/t/starting-from-plain-html-margins-and-paddings/6333/2 "2022-02-27T10:41:00Z")

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Hi @Andrea1,  
Not a lot to work from, but let’s give it a try.

1. From the “Window” menu select Workspace → Default (3 column). This will just make sure none of the needed columns are hidden.
2. Next, select the Tree Panel in the right-hand set of columns and highlight the page body.  
 ![image](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/uploads/pinegrow/original/2X/c/ca4ae5e59839b6d52d15fb5ae579f988504f4d59.png)

1. Select the Style panel from the same set of panels and if necessary open the Visual Editor up a bit by dragging the top of it.  
 ![image](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/uploads/pinegrow/original/2X/2/28f4de857a29585faa03d22acd2506be42b1a736.png)  
That should be it. You can move the panels around to fit your workstyle if you would like.  
Cheers,  
Bob

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**Author:** ![Andrea1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/cdc98d/32.png) [@Andrea1](https://forum.pinegrow.com/u/Andrea1)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2022, 4:45pm UTC](https://forum.pinegrow.com/t/starting-from-plain-html-margins-and-paddings/6333/3 "2022-02-27T16:45:29Z")

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Thanks, I already did, and this is what I still see:

 ![grafik](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/uploads/pinegrow/original/2X/c/cf9d8d02baa4c37601d495f62b8090e8850121ba.png)

Could it be that the problem is that I somehow have inline style set?

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**Author:** ![RobM](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/278dde/32.png) [@RobM](https://forum.pinegrow.com/u/RobM)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2022, 7:59pm UTC](https://forum.pinegrow.com/t/starting-from-plain-html-margins-and-paddings/6333/4 "2022-02-27T19:59:14Z")

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Hi @Andrea1,  
The Visual Editor should be further down in the same panel. Is it collapsed against the bottom? There should be a double arrow to the right side of the panel at the very bottom if it is.  
Not sure when you can post again, but can you give a full size screenshot - the whole of the application - with the Style panel selected?  
Cheers,  
Bob

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**Author:** ![Andrea1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/cdc98d/32.png) [@Andrea1](https://forum.pinegrow.com/u/Andrea1)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2022, 8:54am UTC](https://forum.pinegrow.com/t/starting-from-plain-html-margins-and-paddings/6333/5 "2022-02-28T08:54:49Z")

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Au yeah, I found it! It was closed at the very bottom. Thanks very much!