# The 2018 Showcases start with **URL:** \ **Category:** Showcase\ **Created:** [January 11, 2018, 1:07pm UTC](https://forum.pinegrow.com/t/the-2018-showcases-start-with/1499 "2018-01-11T13:07:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![schpengle](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/forum.pinegrow.com/schpengle/32/238_2.png) [@schpengle](https://forum.pinegrow.com/u/schpengle)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2018, 1:07pm UTC](https://forum.pinegrow.com/t/the-2018-showcases-start-with/1499/1 "2018-01-11T13:07:37Z")
Yes! this [http://swethtaraorganics.co.uk](http://swethtaraorganics.co.uk) This is just a holding page, while I work on their site. yes, in keeping with my weird/alternative/sub culture usual sort of style, this is my first client of 2018 as I again attempt to get stuff done šŸ™‚ feedback welcome. (i suppose) -ie, with regards spacing methods used (paddings/margins etc) where I have tried push a few things up and down. šŸ˜ƒ and by way of interest. I wasnt too sure which way this will go (wordpress, flatfile, static - it will have a shop though) but it is on a windows server (gah!) so I might be limited by what I can do on the iffy back end. but, hey, there we go. oh and any nice free font selection , let me know. that sort of organic works, but can look a bit miserable on a mobile. but anyway, this is just the landing page (temporary) honest šŸ™‚ ---
**Author:** ![mandarin](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/forum.pinegrow.com/mandarin/32/806_2.png) [@mandarin](https://forum.pinegrow.com/u/mandarin)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2018, 3:26pm UTC](https://forum.pinegrow.com/t/the-2018-showcases-start-with/1499/2 "2018-01-11T15:26:14Z")
The lilac scrolly text over the top image is impossible to read without a struggle. Why not stick to a recognised font is a recognised colour and perhaps have an overlay on picture to help text stand out a bit. ---
**Author:** ![schpengle](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/forum.pinegrow.com/schpengle/32/238_2.png) [@schpengle](https://forum.pinegrow.com/u/schpengle)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2018, 4:28pm UTC](https://forum.pinegrow.com/t/the-2018-showcases-start-with/1499/3 "2018-01-11T16:28:19Z")
yes cheers, challenging text isnā€™t t! šŸ™‚ on laptop, that font (a webfont) looksā€¦kind of ok, on my phone, -pretty challenging! the "a"s and "e"s are very poorly formed on that device. strange. on tablet, looks much better but, the buttons span the entire screen. ive seen a way with a pinegrow vid to prevent that, so it is limited to a nice size. must find\< or get a link posted here. and the font was selected asā€¦a whim šŸ™‚ something _relaxing_ organic and flowingā€¦although when it appears against the sky, it certainly aint relaxing to read. and the color, well that was a modified version of what the friend/client wanted, i sort of matched it to the Buddlia plant colours. doenst quite work but šŸ™‚ oh the green! yeah, that was thier choice too šŸ™‚ the pea soup green. and did you try it on mobile devices @mandarin, result? and thanks ---
**Author:** ![mandarin](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/forum.pinegrow.com/mandarin/32/806_2.png) [@mandarin](https://forum.pinegrow.com/u/mandarin)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2018, 4:48pm UTC](https://forum.pinegrow.com/t/the-2018-showcases-start-with/1499/4 "2018-01-11T16:48:54Z")
More hideous on a smaller screen. Simply doesnā€™t work. Find some one colour blind to have a look, will not work for them at all. Sorry, but just donā€™t like the colours at all. ---
**Author:** ![schpengle](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/forum.pinegrow.com/schpengle/32/238_2.png) [@schpengle](https://forum.pinegrow.com/u/schpengle)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2018, 5:28pm UTC](https://forum.pinegrow.com/t/the-2018-showcases-start-with/1499/5 "2018-01-11T17:28:50Z")
lol! yep, much what i was thinking. soā€¦what font do you think would be graceful ? which web font has some flair and life to it that would work? do you think? opinions and all? ---
**Author:** ![schpengle](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/forum.pinegrow.com/schpengle/32/238_2.png) [@schpengle](https://forum.pinegrow.com/u/schpengle)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2018, 9:41pm UTC](https://forum.pinegrow.com/t/the-2018-showcases-start-with/1499/6 "2018-01-11T21:41:14Z")
Ok, done some changes šŸ™‚ More suitable (and boring, less flowing, but far more legible) font and changed Colours of font and added an _interesting_ semi transparent background colour. In keeping with their wishes and ā€¦my retinas longevity. I am rather getting to like the deep purple and pea green combo šŸ™‚ ---
**Author:** ![mandarin](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/forum.pinegrow.com/mandarin/32/806_2.png) [@mandarin](https://forum.pinegrow.com/u/mandarin)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2018, 9:41am UTC](https://forum.pinegrow.com/t/the-2018-showcases-start-with/1499/7 "2018-01-12T09:41:30Z")
Better than it was for sure. Still not to my taste, but a lot easier to read now. ---
**Author:** ![schpengle](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/forum.pinegrow.com/schpengle/32/238_2.png) [@schpengle](https://forum.pinegrow.com/u/schpengle)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2018, 11:34am UTC](https://forum.pinegrow.com/t/the-2018-showcases-start-with/1499/8 "2018-01-12T11:34:12Z")
Thanks šŸ™‚ not really mine, butā€¦I could send you a screen shot of the colours they WERE using, but It might destroy your monitor/retinas/sensibilities. The site was partially designed by another beginner chap with them using Serif WebPlus x8, that they were advised to buy it by himā€¦earlier this year. er. [http://www.serif.com/webplus/](http://www.serif.com/webplus/) ---
**Author:** ![Thomas](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/forum.pinegrow.com/thomas/32/61_2.png) [@Thomas](https://forum.pinegrow.com/u/Thomas)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2018, 9:48am UTC](https://forum.pinegrow.com/t/the-2018-showcases-start-with/1499/9 "2018-01-16T09:48:13Z")
Well - Ian, you wanted it, youā€™ll get it (certainly nice meant). The point is that design is in everyones eyes. But there are some simple things I allow myself to outline: ![Sweth_Tara_und_Private](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/uploads/pinegrow/original/1X/92ee67e11268764cb0d95fd7ef09edfb120154cf.jpg) Cheers Thomas ---
**Author:** ![mandarin](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/forum.pinegrow.com/mandarin/32/806_2.png) [@mandarin](https://forum.pinegrow.com/u/mandarin)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2018, 9:52am UTC](https://forum.pinegrow.com/t/the-2018-showcases-start-with/1499/10 "2018-01-16T09:52:16Z")
FWIW, Web Plus has never updated and now never will be to create anything Responsive. Best place for it will be the manure heap. ---
**Author:** ![schpengle](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/forum.pinegrow.com/schpengle/32/238_2.png) [@schpengle](https://forum.pinegrow.com/u/schpengle)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2018, 1:33pm UTC](https://forum.pinegrow.com/t/the-2018-showcases-start-with/1499/11 "2018-01-16T13:33:38Z")
Yes, thanks both. I will give them the good news about WebPlus X8. its a pity as the previous chap advised them to get it and then showed them HIS website built with itā€¦ erā€¦ ah! I cant find it now, but I will at some point. Letā€™s just say the design is very _90_sā€¦ Maybe 1890ā€™s? Im not sure. So I had to start with this 90ā€™s design and a colour scheme inspired by VERY BRIGHT Hindi/Nepalese tastes. SO, as for @Thomasā€™s feedback , thanks! the more white space is a what I intend, but as for white? erā€¦its now just another _bootstap_ blocks site. along with the tedious _british_ font šŸ˜œ I realise that this is required for accessibility but maaaanā€¦ where is the design flare? ā˜¹ and , thsi site is also going to have to deal with some other stuf too , like ą¤¬ą¤¹ą„ą¤¤ ą¤¬ą¤¹ą„ą¤¤ ą¤§ą¤Øą„ą¤Æą¤µą¤¾ą¤¦ Thomas ha! chew that one up with British font šŸ˜ƒ that is _Thank you so much Thomas_ ā€¦ in Hindi (Devengari keyboard. ā€¦used, on a mac) Yes! so, this is also going to have Hindi/Nepalese versions. ā€¦Well, if your going to go out for a swim in shark infested waters, you might as well head for where the sharks are, just to avoid boredom šŸ™‚ so, yes, keep up the feedback, now, does anyone know a NICE Organic, flowing web font that is ACTUALLY READABLE? on devices? I will play with the spacing as @Thomas suggests, on this holding page as its good practice for working out the bootstrap classes and overiding in custom.css, but I also have to make the Proper site and shop! Oh! which reminds me. They spent some time building up a shopping cart in their program using minicart.js or simplecart.js, I forget which now, but , alas, both seem abandoned. so, they are currently stuck on a windows IIS server, so does anyone recommend a nice , simple shopping cart that runs in the browser with no php/server backend? as, its a windows server, no database and i dont want to touch the thing! yuk ---
**Author:** ![mandarin](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/forum.pinegrow.com/mandarin/32/806_2.png) [@mandarin](https://forum.pinegrow.com/u/mandarin)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2018, 1:55pm UTC](https://forum.pinegrow.com/t/the-2018-showcases-start-with/1499/12 "2018-01-16T13:55:41Z")
If it were me Iā€™d dump Windows Server, move to a simple cPanel hosted account and use Stiva Cart from [www.phpjabbers.com](http://www.phpjabbers.com) Got this running in a few locations, easy to set up, integrate and get people to spend money. For a nicer font have a look online at Google fonts, all can be incorporated in a bootstrap site without any issues. ---
**Author:** ![schpengle](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/forum.pinegrow.com/schpengle/32/238_2.png) [@schpengle](https://forum.pinegrow.com/u/schpengle)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2018, 1:59pm UTC](https://forum.pinegrow.com/t/the-2018-showcases-start-with/1499/13 "2018-01-16T13:59:56Z")
Yep, cheers Mandarin for that. This is the server they currently have, so trying to make do with it- but I do have a reseller account (linux box) so migrating them wouldnt be a problem from 123reg to my own , but that means, the server they have is duff, the program they have is duff, the design they had was duff, the shop they designed is duff. That can be a bit demoralising all at once, so Iā€™m taking it in stages for them šŸ™‚ OH, yeah, and the previous designer (who will want paying) walked away as he said somthing was wrong with their passwords/account and he couldnā€™t upload the site to they site and they couldnā€™t work it out. I did. He was trying to upload to the wrong web root. he was attempting to upload to the sever root, / not the web webroot, /web/content. which is apparently how it works on a 123reg windows server. (where my /public\_html/ is on linux box. ) oh yes, and if ANYONE is thinking of getting a 123reg windows account , DONT. their control panel , file manager (for upload and download, as well as accessing files to edit ) is irrevocably broken! It will constantly time out and say to try again later. since last june. I contacted tech support to be told that Yep! its destroyed. they can do nothing about it, but they can pay an extra Ā£12 and get thier linux box for the same deal instead as they cant fix the windows one. oh, and he default page it serves, is ā€¦ default.htm, NOT index. html. so I had to learn about and create a web.config file to change that, as it doesnt use .htaccess or permissions . and, it was still broken. I told them that it still didnt work, they said there was no problem their end. thenā€¦ the next day it _mysteriously_ started working again. Im less than impressed with them. I also have a 123reg account for domain registration, but would never touch them for hosting after this. And I did try a google font - "Stalemate\* ā€¦ everyone screamed at me for it! OH the noisesā€¦ I can still hear them in my headā€¦echoingā€¦