# Where has my CSS attributes panel gone?

**URL:** <https://forum.pinegrow.com/t/where-has-my-css-attributes-panel-gone/1405>\
**Category:** General\
**Created:** [November 30, 2017, 11:42am UTC](https://forum.pinegrow.com/t/where-has-my-css-attributes-panel-gone/1405 "2017-11-30T11:42:58Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 6\
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**Author:** ![paulmarshall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/958977/32.png) [@paulmarshall](https://forum.pinegrow.com/u/paulmarshall)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2017, 11:42am UTC](https://forum.pinegrow.com/t/where-has-my-css-attributes-panel-gone/1405/1 "2017-11-30T11:42:58Z")

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In Pinegrow 3 next to the CSS selector there was a panel where i could visually set the attributes of each rule.  
In Pinegrow 4 it is not there. I dont understand how I can set the properties other than by editing the code. How do I get this panel back?

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**Author:** ![Emmanuel](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/forum.pinegrow.com/emmanuel/32/6294_2.png) [@Emmanuel](https://forum.pinegrow.com/u/Emmanuel)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2017, 4:25pm UTC](https://forum.pinegrow.com/t/where-has-my-css-attributes-panel-gone/1405/2 "2017-11-30T16:25:41Z")

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How about trying this documentation link? [Style – Paint with CSS](http://docs.pinegrow.com/v4/getting-started/quick-introduction-to-pinegrow/#Style_8211_Paint_with_CSS)

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**Author:** ![paulmarshall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/958977/32.png) [@paulmarshall](https://forum.pinegrow.com/u/paulmarshall)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2017, 5:26pm UTC](https://forum.pinegrow.com/t/where-has-my-css-attributes-panel-gone/1405/3 "2017-11-30T17:26:54Z")

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I know how to do it, but the Visual Editor is simply not there. Its was ok in the previous version. If there is a way to make it appear/disappear I dont know what it is.

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**Author:** ![msavard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e5b9ba/32.png) [@msavard](https://forum.pinegrow.com/u/msavard)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2017, 12:46am UTC](https://forum.pinegrow.com/t/where-has-my-css-attributes-panel-gone/1405/4 "2017-12-01T00:46:22Z")

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The visual editor can be minimized. Perhaps that is what happened? Look at the bottom of the screen

 ![2017-11-30_164527](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/uploads/pinegrow/original/1X/5239e4cbc7fa3eb57ceb406ca3cd496c6a4f1b91.png)

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**Author:** ![paulmarshall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/958977/32.png) [@paulmarshall](https://forum.pinegrow.com/u/paulmarshall)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2017, 12:40pm UTC](https://forum.pinegrow.com/t/where-has-my-css-attributes-panel-gone/1405/5 "2017-12-06T12:40:10Z")

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I do not have this minimise button.

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**Author:** ![paulmarshall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/958977/32.png) [@paulmarshall](https://forum.pinegrow.com/u/paulmarshall)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2017, 11:52am UTC](https://forum.pinegrow.com/t/where-has-my-css-attributes-panel-gone/1405/6 "2017-12-14T11:52:41Z")

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I normally use PG spread over two monitors.Turns out if I make it fit to one monitor, and maximise it, and select the default workspace then the visual editor title bar and min/maximise button comes back. Then I can restore my visual editor. Luckily it stays put when I go back to two monitors - because the title and button disappears again.  
It would be great to have proper independant floating windows for multi-monitor use.