Image alternate text

not sure if this a bug or a missed attempt to do the right thing, but proper html dictates that every <img alt=""> tag must include an alternate text designation, even if it’s NULL

what PG does if you leave the field blank in the UI is that it omits the alt= attribute altogether, which is not what we want in this case.

If you try to put open/close quote in the UI field, then PG over-achieves by putting in both sets of quotes with the inner ones as the ascii code alt="&quot;&quot;" when it adds the attribute.

which is all technically correct, but under/over shoots the target with no way to just put in the alt="" when we don’t need to designate a page reader description of, say, an icon image or logo.

my suggestion is:

  1. that PG should automatically always add the alt="" attribute to the tag, even when the UI is left blank (representing a NULL value).

  2. then if anything is entered into the UI field, PG would place the string inside the existing set of quotes, rather than add an additional alt= attribute string to the tag.

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I agree with you that the alt attribute should always be added for relevant type images, but according to both Mozzila (RIP?) and the W3 living standard, it is optional.
Mozzilla


W3

Just my two cents.

wait, what happened to mozzila?

anyway, so, the reason i bring this alt= thing up is because i ran one of my pages thru the W3 validator and it caught it. otherwise, i might not have ever noticed it was missing.

btw, it said it was an Error, not a Warning.

the difference for the screen readers is, i believe, that when it’s NULL the reader omits mention of the image altogether so as not to distract from the content flow…

if the attribute is missing, then the reader says there is an image here, but it has no information about it.

which would totally be distracting and leave the user wondering, yet again, what they are missing out on.

They laid off a approx a quarter of their staff. But they are also planning to refocus in areas to create income. I don’t see them going anywhere.

Not if you’re concerned about accessibility, A11Y, WCAG, ADA, etc., and people should be when creating sites, allowing for accessibility.

jebus, RIP indeed.

that “announcement” sure used a lot words in, what appear to be, the correct order… but it didn’t say A THING… nada, zip, zero.

all i got from it was that some hot shot exec rolled into the c-suite and said, “Firefox and Mozilla retain a high degree of trust in the world”… “and i’m going to burn it to the ground while making a shit ton of money, now get off!”

that’s what i heard.

I don’t know I surely hope not. Its hard to imagine an entity that has given the web so much (invented/implemented) vanishing. But its 2020 and so much is becoming hard to imagine. Firefox Dev Tools & Firefox Developer Edition are awesome and if / when the quality of MDN diminishes that will impact the entire web.

Its amazing on twitter how many companies are reaching out trying to get those people, at least others see their value. @matjaz too bad Pinegrow can’t reach out (like webflow) and hire a handful of these super talented people and help get things moving forward faster. :smile:


2020 :upside_down_face:

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