I’ve hit the same wall. After hours trying to build a simple WordPress menu in Pinegrow, I honestly felt like I was fighting the tool, not working with it. Even with Claude AI’s help, it turned into a time-consuming mess for what should be a basic task.
And let’s be real—Tailwind integration was supposed to make Pinegrow more accessible to web designers with minimal dev skills. That was the pitch. But here we are, and even experienced users are getting stuck trying to build a dropdown menu. That’s a major red flag.
The submenu issue isn’t new—it keeps coming up, over and over again. Yet, somehow, there’s still no official solution, no built-in pattern, and no real guidance. Why hasn’t the team addressed this directly? No documentation, no templates, not even a public acknowledgment that this is a recurring pain point.
Sure, there’s @adamslowe’s Alpine.js tutorial, but it’s over an hour long just to create basic navigation. That’s not usability—that’s endurance training.
I tried using Kadence Pro Blocks just to get a working nav up and running. It worked—but the tradeoff was running two block systems side by side, which made no long-term sense. So I ended up just fully switching to Kadence’s ecosystem, even though I genuinely didn’t want to. That should tell you something.
What makes this worse is Pinegrow’s complete lack of roadmap. Every release is a mystery drop. That might be fun for the devs, but it creates zero trust for users trying to commit to the platform. The unpredictability pushes people away—not because they don’t like Pinegrow, but because they can’t rely on it.
Meanwhile, The new kid on the block EtchWP is shaping up to do exactly what Pinegrow should’ve nailed: simplicity, structure, and a clear path forward.
And on the AI front—there’s so much potential, but it should be more integrated in pinegrow itself. Why don’t pg team create a GPT bot and then train it properly. ( Hey pinegrow, how do i do this or that? kinda of thing..) Something that understands Pinegrow’s quirks and can guide people step by step. Right now it’s just a missed opportunity.
Bottom line: users are burning hours on basic stuff, and they’re not getting answers. That’s how trust is lost—even from people who want Pinegrow to succeed.