here is a review of several tools that seem to fit what i’m driving at, for both mac and pc.
it’s not to take anything away from PG as it’s a powerful tool for all that surrounds the content and embelishes it… but it’s just not built for content creators (and yes content can live inside section, and article tags as well as just p and hx)
someone could design a plugin for PG that adds this capabilty?
ummm , it does appear that you are making more work for yourself really @droidgoo,
as in your sort of reverser engineering how things actually happen.
and as for…
… er … just dont. really dont.
either your mixing up text editor with word processor or… as you noticed, it creates a LOAD of …
FORMATTING STUFF… in order to have bold underlined etc etc in a WORD PROCESSOR.
proprietary stuff to format the text.and its HTML export is just as bad. if not worse as you have noticed.
You dont need any of this, as…that is what your HTML code is for.
So, your using a word processor, to create a doc that You have to strip the formatting code out of, in order to THEN REFORMAT it using HTML, …while MANUALLY WRITING the HTML CODE…
really… you appear to be going all around the houses, just to get a spell checker…so now, using a MARKDOWN editor (which is yet again, a DIFFERENT form of formatting methodology…)
your now GENERATING MARKUP… for Pinegrow which is a Visual Layout and CODE COMPOSITION
ok, so here we go.
DONT use a word processor. -forget this, its just silly. Look up what a word processor is.
Use a TEXT Editor. Period. -find one you like. obviously we are stuck with Atom or VSCode for plugins.
Install a SPELL CHECKER PLUGIN. in your chosen one.
you are now where you wanted to be.
You have a text editor, with spell checker. If you have one which synchronises with PG via a plugin, ideal!
Sublime Text…Sublime Text… where for art thou, Sublime Text… Ad LIb Shakespere…
start wandering around the web dev pages on sites like these
then, feel free to join in the immortal My text editor is FAB< yours sucks
as your now using MARKDOWN formatting tools, to create HTML code, to import into a HTML Formatting tool.
I think you might want to take a look at your work flow again maybe>?
Something seems to have got out of sync I think, or I might be wrong, but you seem to be going around the houses to get to where you should be in the first place, after opening the front door.
hee hee hee… just because I FIND THE CONSTANT… repetition of their adverts on YouTube so damned tedious…
have you considered?
that makes sense btw, I get that, using markdown to instantly see the layout.
But have you not tried using the live view?
ie, looking at your browser, which is connected to pinegrow, … and editing the text/pasting it in?
I HIGHLY recommend learning Emmet or the old zen coding.
Pinegrow has PUG …(wish it had Emmet - of course, as it would be one less new thing to learn, when your already on a different path to achieve the same outcome…but… )
As this is a shortcut for Webcoding and you could find the results really quite productive with regards formatting etc. its quite spectacular.
Its just shorthand way of writing structural html code and stylistic CSS code.
here you go, a nice example of functionality using Emmet In SublimeText 3 (no bias… )
that’s neat, but it seems geared toward folks who write html code all day, every day.
i’m not one of those folks.
i’m trying to express and publish creative works with the least amount of “tool” overhead as possible.
i know how to type what i’m thinking.
i know limits of html format in markup like h1, em… ect.
and thanks to PG i know how to make a website that has all the content so i can publish it and how i can style that a thousand ways using CSS.
the major piece missing right now is how to get what i write into a form of html that PG will accept, and since spelling is one of my serious handicaps, i’m looking for a solution that also has spellcheck (that’s what drew me to this thread in the first place).
all these markdown tools looked promising (there’s even an extension for VS, thanks for that tip)… but i’m still not at home looking back and forth between two different views while i compose the content i want to convey ( mean even that echo of a preview to the right as i type this right now, is annoying me).
typora seems to come closer with it’s ability to actually edit the text and render it in the same view… it’s a little jarring watching it interpret my mistakes and then finally rendering once i get the syntax correct, but i think i could get used to it.
ok, well let me know how it goes and what you end up doing @droidgoo and what works out best for yourself, it might very well be good for someone else too. I just seemed a little awkward for myself see someone trying to find a way to create markup to enter it into a *allbeit sub par text AND… Markup… text editor **pinegrows (which I quite like! but it does lack a bit) - just because it is missing a … spell checker.
But what do I know anyway? so crack on and let me know how it goes.
I also use markdown and have a nice little light weight, fast, editor for that on the Mac, it is great when you get documentation in that format and POP up it pops very nicely.
Oh! and you will also find that Markdown is what is used in this forum for Formatting your text
Kind of …
So I expect terribly pretty and well spelt posts from now on … Maybe in orange too
yes, i looked at the markdown extension in VScode, see my post above.
still having to look back and forth between the markdown and the live view is distracting. Also, it was not at all obvious how to get my html out of that extension and into the code attached to PG. Then there’s still the spellcheck thing.
typora doesn’t suffer from this view switching issue, while still giving me all the power for markdown for composition, and spellcheck is built in.
i can either copy the html out or typora for a hightlighted section of markup or i can export the whole document without any styling as a separate html file
either way, i’m able to easlily transfer my creation into the body (or section) of the PG tree where it can be styled and formatted (on a CSS grid if i want. edit: i’ve found out what Auto-Format is good for, when you paste in html this feature will properly indent everything onto separate lines in your code rather than run them all together – nice.
this seems like a workable flow for me, as it gives me the creative freedom to write in Word, if i so choose because typora will import .docx files and i can re-xport them without all the styling bloat that MS puts on them.
and it’s free (going to have to kick them some support now
i’m going to be 60… ur never too old to learn new things.
besides that, i’m also lazy by nature… so the lest futsing around with non-improtant intracasites of syntax limitations, then more comfortable i am createting what i want.
PG is a HUGE lift in that regard with all of it’s management of styles and classes, but it gets in the way of just writing what i want to say.
for that i need to be in a Word like environment. I can live within the limitations of h1-h6, em, strong, et. al. while wrting, if i know that my compostion can translate into a functioning webpage. I can embellesh the styles from there using PG using generic selectors, or adding a .class here an there as needed.
Ha ha. Yes, I was a bit perturbed when I realised that PG didn’t have a spell checker. Coming from a blog style environment I thought it was essential as I used it a lot. Daily updates, text heavy. I liked just about everything else about PG though and after looking at my workflow realistically I realised that I only needed to use a spell checker once I’d completed the page… graphics, video, links, text blocks.
So when finished, I simply clicked to view in browser, left moused and copied the page then pasted it into Open Office (Paste Special) ‘Text Document’ as ‘Unformatted Text’. Auto spell checked. Did corrections back in PG and all done. Easy Peasy.
I use the Spell Right extension on Visual Studio Code. Most of the time I use VS alongside PG.
PG integrations with VS works and it allows you to use some great VS extension, so I never felt the need to a spell checker within PG.
Come on. They forgot to add it. If they did not have a Gui design view and made us use a browser preview after making changes we would NOT use it, would we?
So, all of this talk of using another App to spell check after we make changes is just making excuses.
I am very impressed with Pinegrow and it shows they have some code wizards working on the code. The problem is they have not been tasked with a spell checker. Even this Forums has spell check on the post you are creating.
i think the point is, the content has to come from somewhere… and for me at least, i nee to work on the content separately from working on the html/css because it’s distracting too take all that into acct at the same time. Plus, i’m a terrible speller anyway.